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  Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
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  judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

  imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

  by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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  Hey, Y'all

  by snowbird in

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  2. friends

  how is everybody doing?.

  it's been 8 months since i've been here.. so many newbies!.

  lol.. sylvia.

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  45 Minute Bethel Video about Changes (downsizing) at Watchtower

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't see this posted elsewhere, and i don't have the links besides this facebook one.. but here is a 45-minute long bethel talk about the changes at bethel including addressing the hard feelings of people who were given the axe.

  basically, everything must change.

  we gave remaining bethelites saturday off to do our bidding in "the field" and we give bethelites over 70 an extra day a week off (if you can find any such bethelites).

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  Thank you I cannot wait to see it all the way through.

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  What would happen if...

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in an effort to excuse yourself from elder persecution, you present an argument.

  whether at a jc or just in an average elder shepherding call.

  most people who have confronted a jc, have tried to explain to the elders about what they know of the org but the incriminating questions always come up.. when confronted with the question, do you still believe the gb is the f&ds?

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  I was just asked this question and how I responded was would I have not had children even though I really wanted them, if I did not think the GB were being used by Jehovah? Would I have served where the need was great and lived on nothing? Would I have taken a vow of property? etc, the idiot asking me was dumbfounded and said OH sister, sister I did not mean to offend you.

  That settled it. I never said I do not believe it now, I just used what I did in the past and he was just did not know what to do with me. I loved it.

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  Waking up - introduction

  by Dreamerdude in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am a male, born into the jw cult(ure), baptized as a teen, now mid fifties.

  most of my life i dreamed of hugging pandas and lions, punctuated at times by nightmares of armageddon or jw drama and politics.

  still going through the motions for still-in wife.

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  Welcome I am also in my early 50's and my husband is still, though there is talk that they might DF him for not saying hi enough to some of the elders. Crazy

  I wish I knew what would wake someone up but I have finally come to realize that you have to do it on your own.

  Glad you are here.

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  One Person Baptized at Circuit Assembly

  by Simon Templar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went to the circuit assembly with my wife yesterday.

  i have to keep peace in the family.

  there were less than 1,000 people for both the morning and the afternoon sessions.

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  It is the same where I am on the west coast, my husband had his special day last week and he was saying that only three kids got baptized they all looked to be about 15 and under.

  There always used to be well over 1000 at these special days and he said that it topped 700. He of course attributed it to people not wanting to know the truth and lead their debouched lives but still it has differently slowed down where I am at. When I was in my teens we always had 20 or more getting baptized and the summer assemblies 30 to 40 if not more, that is not how it is now.

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  Any here who didn't rebel as a teenager and were a goody two shoes instead?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was a teenager in the borg i was a dyed in the wool, goody two shoes, squeaky clean,"spiritual " sister.

  alot of my peers around me were rebelling and going off the rails but not me.

  i was constantly praised for this and even felt a little smug about it ha!.

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  That was totally me also. I did everything I was told and never questioned a thing. I also went to a few JW parties and was appalled at how worldly they got, many of the elders kids were so drunk it was unreal. One party I went to the pioneer mom was there, the dad was not a JW but the pioneer mom had alcohol and you could drink as much as you wanted. I was just so shocked and felt so betrayed. One JW pioneer did a pole dance and of course all the guys were all over her. One of the elder son's who could not walk as he was so drunk tried to drive home and another elder kid took his car keys away they wound up in a fight in the front yard.

  It was sort of surreal. The place I worked had a employee party and I was forced to go to keep my job, I felt like I was betraying Jehovah for associating for the world and yet I had the best time, there was no drinking and just young people fun.

  My gut always told me something was wrong but of course I never listened to my gut. One of my main wises was to go to other churches and just see for myself how horrible they were instead of being told that they were but of course I was to goody, goody, two shoes to do that as it was breaking Jehovah's law to ever set foot in a church.

  I do not regret that I did not party as that was and is just not me, but I do regret that I did not have a life, have fun, go house back ridding, go bike ridding, jogging, spend a Saturday morning in a coffee shop reading a book.

  All of those things were forbidden, seriously forbidden as if you had time to read you should be reading a JW product, if you took a day to go on a bike ride you could have used it to go in service and who knew that a Angle was wanting you to call on a home and save someone but you selfishly spent you time enjoying yourself when lives were at stake.

  I bought into all the garbage and never enjoyed my youth. I live in total regret.

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  What Are the Top JW Issues That Just Burn Your Buns the Most?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  which ones make you the maddest?

  covering up of abuse, shunning, failed end of world predictions?.

  my list is long and heavy, but the top 3 that set me off the most are:.

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  1 Child abuse cover up

  2 Lack of Love
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  NOW it's Important

  by TheLiberator in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have spent 45 years of my life sacrificing my soul to the watchtower.

  twenty-five of those years as a ms/elder.

  i gave every moment to them.

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  I totally understand where you are coming from. My husband and I lived on nothing $3,000 a year when we were first married and that was in the US in 1987. My husband was gone all the time being an elder we never had a true marriage. We had all the crazy ones in the hall dumped on us. We were hit up for money and rides all the time.

  We went to Bethel and were there for over two years which fact just seemed to make a lot of the JW's mad. I will never forget one elder laughing at my husband and myself saying that we were lying when we told him we lived on $200 a month. I got to ride around in the car listening to everyone having date nights with their husband and buying new cars, and homes etc while we crammed 5 to 6 people in our Honda Civic because no one else would use their cars.

  I am bitter now looking back at all we gave up and for what, so I totally get where you are coming from.

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  "But WHY would you want to know those things??"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i ran into an older sister who has always been very sweet.. it was a friendly chat...yet she pushed for a reason why my family have been missing from meetings for some time.

  the question was deflected, until it just had to be said: "well, there have been some troubling and disturbing issues about the society especially the way things were handled during the royal commission, as well as many other issues".. she quickly cut in and said "but why would you want to know these things?

  its best not to research and look at those sort of things - so we don't get upset!".

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  I was told by an elder's wife that I think to much and that I try to understand things that I really should not.

  I was just blown away and this was not by an old person this was by a women in her late 40's at the time and she was not a stupid person if you were to just met her. She actually came off as a real thinker.

  I was just speechless.

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